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Because we are given specific dimensions for the globe model, we can use those to calculate and predict how far we should be able to see objects in the distance. There are many long-distance observations that are considered "globe killers" because they would be impossible to see if the WGS-84 globe model were an indication of reality.
Flat Earth Claim #1: We See Too Far, from the 24/7 Flat Earth Discord Livestream podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4BEhuEtWK2R971gtqMkicw
Visible Light Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Finestrelles Pyrenees to Pic Gaspard | 443 kilometres (275 mi) | 2,826 metres (9,272 ft) | 3,883 metres (12,740 ft) | 188.3 kilometres (117.0 mi) | 5,096 metres (16,719 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Canigó Pyrenees to Barre des Écrins Alps | 412 kilometres (256 mi) | 2,785 metres (9,137 ft) | 4,102 metres (13,458 ft) | 189.7 kilometres (117.9 mi) | 3,882 metres (12,736 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Black Swan | Greater than 9.34 miles (15.03 km) | 1 foot (0.30 m) | Not Applicable | 1.2 miles (1.9 km) | Not Applicable | Z-axis ONLY! |
| Dover From Calais | 24 miles (39 km) | Estimated 12 feet (3.7 m) | 350 feet (110 m) | 4.2 miles (6.8 km) | 260 feet (79 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Chicago Skyline | 53 miles (85 km) | Estimate MAX 223 feet (68 m) | 1,453 feet (443 m) | 8.2 miles (13.2 km) | 804 feet (245 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Salton Sea | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Milwaukee Wisconsin From Muskeegan Michigan | 80 miles (130 km) | Estimated 50 feet (15 m) | 650 feet (200 m) | 8.6 miles (13.8 km) | 3,394 feet (1,034 m) | Y-axis |
| Worthing To Brighton | 15.4 kilometres (9.6 mi) | 0.1 metres (0.33 ft) | 12.2 metres (40 ft) | 1.1 kilometres (0.68 mi) | 16 metres (52 ft) | Y-Axis |
| Selsey To Brighton at Night | 45.5 kilometres (28.3 mi) | 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) | 162 metres (531 ft) | 4.3 kilometres (2.7 mi) | 132.7 metres (435 ft) | Y-axis |
| Selsey To Brighton | 45.5 kilometres (28.3 mi) | 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) | 162 metres (531 ft) | 4.3 kilometres (2.7 mi) | 132.7 metres (435 ft) | Y-axis |
| Ice Swan - Rock Lake Manitoba (Frozen) | Simultaneously - 5 miles (8.0 km) , 6 miles (9.7 km) , 7 miles (11 km) , 8 miles (13 km) | .5 feet (0.15 m) | 1.5 feet (0.46 m) | 0.866 miles (1.394 km) | Simultaneously - 11.4 feet (3.5 m) , 17.6 feet (5.4 m) , 25.1 feet (7.7 m) , 33.9 feet (10.3 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Utah Lake | 13.7 miles (22.0 km) | 75 feet (23 m) | 5.5 feet (1.7 m) | 1 mile (1.6 km) | 106.5 feet (32.5 m) | Y-axis |
| Oceanside Pier to Catalina Island | 61 miles (98 km) | 30 feet (9.1 m) | 2,097 feet (639 m) | 6.7 miles (10.8 km) | 1,965 feet (599 m) | Y-axis |
| Minehead to Second Severn Bridge | 41.8 miles (67.3 km) | 256 feet (78 m) | 449 feet (137 m) | 19.5 miles (31.4 km) | 330 feet (100 m) | Y-axis |
| Glencoe Pier to Waukegan NRG Power Station | 17.2 miles (27.7 km) | 8 feet (2.4 m) | Estimated 118 feet (36 m) | 3.4 miles (5.5 km) | 125 feet (38 m) | Y-axis |
| Pine Island to Cutter Rock | 11.2 miles (18.0 km) | 2.5 feet (0.76 m) | Estimated 12 feet (3.7 m) | 1.9 miles (3.1 km) | 57.4 feet (17.5 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Dennis Beach to Gullivers Cove | 56 miles (90 km) | 84 feet (26 m) | Estimated 660 feet (200 m) | 11.2 miles (18.0 km) | 1,337 feet (408 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| The Lhen Beach to The Mull of Galloway Lighthouse | 22.6 miles (36.4 km) | 6 feet (1.8 m) | 325 feet (99 m) | 3 miles (4.8 km) | 256 feet (78 m) | Y-axis |
| Puig Sallfort to Giraglia Lighthouse | 325 miles (523 km) | 3,211 feet (979 m) | 279 feet (85 m) | 69.4 miles (111.7 km) | 43,680 feet (13,310 m) | Y-axis |
| Mille Lacs Lake to Mille Lacs Lake | 16.6 miles (26.7 km) | Estimated 50 feet (15 m) | Estimated 50 feet (15 m) | 8.6 miles (13.8 km) | 42 feet (13 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Liverpool to the Isle of Man | 84.4 miles (135.8 km) | 218 feet (66 m) | 2,037 feet (621 m) | 16 miles (26 km) | 2,932 feet (894 m) | Y-axis |
| Liverpool to Anglesey | 52.5 miles (84.5 km) | 242 feet (74 m) | 720 feet (220 m) | 19 miles (31 km) | 746 feet (227 m) | Y-axis |
| Worthing to Beachy Head Cliffs and Lighthouse | 27.1 miles (43.6 km) | 4 feet (1.2 m) | 141 feet (43 m) | 2.4 miles (3.9 km) | 405 feet (123 m) | Y-axis |
| Pine Island to Billy Steels Beacon Light | 7.5 miles (12.1 km) | 4 inches (0.10 m) | 12 feet (3.7 m) | .7 miles (1.1 km) | 30.8 feet (9.4 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Playa de Santiago to Paquita Parez Fishing boat | 4.7 miles (7.6 km) | 1 foot (0.30 m) | Not Applicable | 1.22 miles (1.96 km) | Not Applicable | Z-axis ONLY |
| Prestatyn to Black Combe | 63.2 miles (101.7 km) | 23 feet (7.0 m) | 1,970 feet (600 m) | 5.87 miles (9.45 km) | 2,191 feet (668 m) | Y-axis |
| Southport to The Isle of Man | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Blackpool Tower from 4 locations | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Point Aux Herbes to Fort Pike Bridge | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Marineland to Anastasia Park | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Rock Lake Manitoba (Frozen) Mirror Test | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Burnt Mt. to Mt. McLoughlin | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Key Biscayne. to Cape Florida Lighthouse | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Canigou to Le Meije | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Monterey Bay | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Beacon Fell to Isle of Mann | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Sheridan Park to Bradford Beach | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Ryde Seafront and Pier from Selsey | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Cape Arago Cape to Blanco Light House | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Anchors Home to Barrow in Furness | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Helsinki | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Anchors Home to Barrow in Furness II | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Itälahti Lauttasaari to Gråhara Lighthouse | 4.3 miles (6.9 km) | 30 centimetres (12 in) | 15 metres (49 ft) | 1.21 miles (1.95 km) | 4.7 metres (15 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Playa de las Americas to Caleao del Salvaje | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Beacon Fell to Isle of Mann II | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Atwater Park to Edgewater generating station | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Windpoint lighthouse to Bayview | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Fort Niagara to Toronto | 30.8 miles (49.6 km) | 6 feet (1.8 m) | 306 feet (93 m) | 3 miles (4.8 km) | 515 feet (157 m) | Y-axis |
| Lake Tahoe | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Miramar Beach to Anacapa | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| La Gomera to Sail Boat | 43 kilometres (27 mi) | 32 metres (105 ft) | Estimated 25 feet (7.6 m) | 21.1 kilometres (13.1 mi) | 37.5 metres (123 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Albufeira to Praia de Faro Tower | 22.9 kilometres (14.2 mi) | 9.8 metres (32 ft) | 19 metres (62 ft) | 11.1 kilometres (6.9 mi) | 10.8 metres (35 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
Infrared Light Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wales to the Lake District | 187 miles (301 km) | 127 feet (39 m) | 2,864 feet (873 m) | 13.8 miles (22.2 km) | 3,573 feet (1,089 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Perth Hills to Rottnest Island | 32.2 miles (51.8 km) | 782.4 feet (238.5 m) | 264 feet (80 m) | 34.2 miles (55.0 km) | 2.8 feet (0.85 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
