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Because we are given specific dimensions for the globe model, we can use those to calculate and predict how far we should be able to see objects in the distance. There are many long-distance observations that are considered "globe killers" because they would be impossible to see if the WGS-84 globe model were an indication of reality.
Flat Earth Claim #1: We See Too Far, from the 24/7 Flat Earth Discord Livestream podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4BEhuEtWK2R971gtqMkicw
Visible Light Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Finestrelles Pyrenees to Pic Gaspard | 443 kilometres (275 mi) | 2,826 metres (9,272 ft) | 3,883 metres (12,740 ft) | 188.3 kilometres (117.0 mi) | 5,096 metres (16,719 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Canigó Pyrenees to Barre des Écrins Alps | 412 kilometres (256 mi) | 2,785 metres (9,137 ft) | 4,102 metres (13,458 ft) | 189.7 kilometres (117.9 mi) | 3,882 metres (12,736 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Black Swan | Greater than 9.34 miles (15.03 km) | 1 foot (0.30 m) | Not Applicable | 1.2 miles (1.9 km) | Not Applicable | Z-axis ONLY! |
| Dover From Calais | 24 miles (39 km) | Estimated 12 feet (3.7 m) | 350 feet (110 m) | 4.2 miles (6.8 km) | 260 feet (79 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Chicago Skyline | 53 miles (85 km) | Estimate MAX 223 feet (68 m) | 1,453 feet (443 m) | 8.2 miles (13.2 km) | 804 feet (245 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Salton Sea | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Milwaukee Wisconsin From Muskeegan Michigan | 80 miles (130 km) | Estimated 50 feet (15 m) | 650 feet (200 m) | 8.6 miles (13.8 km) | 3,394 feet (1,034 m) | Y-axis |
| Worthing To Brighton | 15.4 kilometres (9.6 mi) | 0.1 metres (0.33 ft) | 12.2 metres (40 ft) | 1.1 kilometres (0.68 mi) | 16 metres (52 ft) | Y-Axis |
| Selsey To Brighton at Night | 45.5 kilometres (28.3 mi) | 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) | 162 metres (531 ft) | 4.3 kilometres (2.7 mi) | 132.7 metres (435 ft) | Y-axis |
| Selsey To Brighton | 45.5 kilometres (28.3 mi) | 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) | 162 metres (531 ft) | 4.3 kilometres (2.7 mi) | 132.7 metres (435 ft) | Y-axis |
| Ice Swan - Rock Lake Manitoba (Frozen) | Simultaneously - 5 miles (8.0 km) , 6 miles (9.7 km) , 7 miles (11 km) , 8 miles (13 km) | .5 feet (0.15 m) | 1.5 feet (0.46 m) | 0.866 miles (1.394 km) | Simultaneously - 11.4 feet (3.5 m) , 17.6 feet (5.4 m) , 25.1 feet (7.7 m) , 33.9 feet (10.3 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Utah Lake | 13.7 miles (22.0 km) | 75 feet (23 m) | 5.5 feet (1.7 m) | 1 mile (1.6 km) | 106.5 feet (32.5 m) | |
| Wales to the Lake District | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Oceanside Pier to Catalina Island | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Minehead to Second Severn Bridge | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Glencoe Pier to Waukegan NRG Power Station | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Pine Island to Cutter Rock | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Dennis Beach to Gullivers Cove | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Albufeira to Praia de Faro Tower | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| The Lhen Beach to The Mull of Galloway Lighthouse | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Puig Sallfort to Giraglia Lighthouse | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Mille Lacs Lake to Mille Lacs Lake | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Liverpool to the Isle of Man | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Liverpool to Anglesey | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Worthing to Beachy Head Cliffs and Lighthouse | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Pine Island to Billy Steels Beacon Light | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Romer Shoals Lighthouse | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Playa de Santiago to Paquita Parez Fishing boat | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Playa de Santiago to Tirajana ferry | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Prestatyn to Black Combe | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Perth Hills to Rottnest Island | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Southport to The Isle of Man | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Blackpool Tower from 4 locations | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Point Aux Herbes to Fort Pike Bridge | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Marineland to Anastasia Park | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Rock Lake Manitoba (Frozen) Mirror Test | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Burnt Mt. to Mt. McLoughlin | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Key Biscayne. to Cape Florida Lighthouse | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Canigou to Le Meije | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Monterey Bay | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Beacon Fell to Isle of Mann | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Sheridan Park to Bradford Beach | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Ryde Seafront and Pier from Selsey | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Cape Arago Cape to Blanco Light House | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Anchors Home to Barrow in Furness | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Helsinki | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Anchors Home to Barrow in Furness II | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Itälahti Lauttasaari to Gråhara Lighthouse | 4.3 miles (6.9 km) | 30 centimetres (12 in) | 15 metres (49 ft) | 1.21 miles (1.95 km) | 4.7 metres (15 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Playa de las Americas to Caleao del Salvaje | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Beacon Fell to Isle of Mann II | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Atwater Park to Edgewater generating station | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Windpoint lighthouse to Bayview | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Fort Niagara to Toronto | 30.8 miles (49.6 km) | 6 feet (1.8 m) | 306 feet (93 m) | 3 miles (4.8 km) | 515 feet (157 m) | Y-axis |
| Lake Tahoe | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| Miramar Beach to Anacapa | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | |
| La Gomera to Sail Boat | 43 kilometres (27 mi) | 32 metres (105 ft) | Estimated 25 feet (7.6 m) | 21.1 kilometres (13.1 mi) | 37.5 metres (123 ft) |
