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! Observation !! Distance !! [[Observer Height]] !! [[Target Height]] !! [[Globe Predicted Horizon Distance]] !! [[Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon]] !! [[Relevant Axis Mismatch]] | ! Observation !! Distance !! [[Observer Height]] !! [[Target Height]] !! [[Globe Predicted Horizon Distance]] !! [[Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon]] !! [[Relevant Axis Mismatch]] | ||
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| [[Laser curvature test Romania]] || {{convert|15|km|mi}} || {{convert|1|m|ft}} || {{convert|1|m|ft}} || {{convert|2.2|km|mi}} || {{convert|33.6|m|ft}} || Y-axis | | [[Laser curvature test Romania]] || {{convert|15|km|mi}} || {{convert|1|m|ft}} || {{convert|1|m|ft}} || {{convert|2.2|km|mi}} || {{convert|33.6|m|ft}} || Y-axis | ||
Revision as of 02:31, 12 April 2020
Because we are given specific dimensions for the globe model, we can use those to calculate and predict how far we should be able to see objects in the distance. There are many long-distance observations that are considered "globe killers" because they would be impossible to see if the WGS-84 globe model were an indication of reality.
Flat Earth Claim #1: We See Too Far, from the 24/7 Flat Earth Discord Livestream podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4BEhuEtWK2R971gtqMkicw
Contents
Visible Light Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Finestrelles Pyrenees to Pic Gaspard | 443 kilometres (275 mi) | 2,826 metres (9,272 ft) | 3,883 metres (12,740 ft) | 188.3 kilometres (117.0 mi) | 5,096 metres (16,719 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Canigó Pyrenees to Barre des Écrins Alps | 412 kilometres (256 mi) | 2,785 metres (9,137 ft) | 4,102 metres (13,458 ft) | 189.7 kilometres (117.9 mi) | 3,882 metres (12,736 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Black Swan | Greater than 9.34 miles (15.03 km) | 1 foot (0.30 m) | Not Applicable | 1.2 miles (1.9 km) | Not Applicable | Z-axis ONLY! |
| Dover From Calais | 24 miles (39 km) | Estimated 12 feet (3.7 m) | 350 feet (110 m) | 4.2 miles (6.8 km) | 260 feet (79 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Chicago Skyline | 53 miles (85 km) | Estimate MAX 223 feet (68 m) | 1,453 feet (443 m) | 8.2 miles (13.2 km) | 804 feet (245 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Milwaukee Wisconsin From Muskeegan Michigan | 80 miles (130 km) | Estimated 50 feet (15 m) | 650 feet (200 m) | 8.6 miles (13.8 km) | 3,394 feet (1,034 m) | Y-axis |
| Worthing To Brighton | 15.4 kilometres (9.6 mi) | 0.1 metres (0.33 ft) | 12.2 metres (40 ft) | 1.1 kilometres (0.68 mi) | 16 metres (52 ft) | Y-Axis |
| Worthing To Brighton II | 15.4 kilometres (9.6 mi) | 0.09 metres (0.30 ft) | 12.2 metres (40 ft) | 1.07 kilometres (0.66 mi) | 16.11 metres (52.9 ft) | Y-Axis |
| Selsey To Brighton at Night | 45.5 kilometres (28.3 mi) | 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) | 162 metres (531 ft) | 4.3 kilometres (2.7 mi) | 132.7 metres (435 ft) | Y-axis |
| Selsey To Brighton | 45.5 kilometres (28.3 mi) | 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) | 162 metres (531 ft) | 4.3 kilometres (2.7 mi) | 132.7 metres (435 ft) | Y-axis |
| Ice Swan - Rock Lake Manitoba (Frozen) | Simultaneously - 5 miles (8.0 km) , 6 miles (9.7 km) , 7 miles (11 km) , 8 miles (13 km) | .5 feet (0.15 m) | 1.5 feet (0.46 m) | 0.866 miles (1.394 km) | Simultaneously - 11.4 feet (3.5 m) , 17.6 feet (5.4 m) , 25.1 feet (7.7 m) , 33.9 feet (10.3 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Oceanside Pier to Catalina Island | 61 miles (98 km) | 30 feet (9.1 m) | 2,097 feet (639 m) | 6.7 miles (10.8 km) | 1,965 feet (599 m) | Y-axis |
| Minehead to Second Severn Bridge | 41.8 miles (67.3 km) | 256 feet (78 m) | 449 feet (137 m) | 19.5 miles (31.4 km) | 330 feet (100 m) | Y-axis |
| Glencoe Pier to Waukegan NRG Power Station | 17.2 miles (27.7 km) | 8 feet (2.4 m) | Estimated 118 feet (36 m) | 3.4 miles (5.5 km) | 125 feet (38 m) | Y-axis |
| Pine Island to Cutter Rock | 11.2 miles (18.0 km) | 2.5 feet (0.76 m) | Estimated 12 feet (3.7 m) | 1.9 miles (3.1 km) | 57.4 feet (17.5 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Dennis Beach to Gullivers Cove | 56 miles (90 km) | 84 feet (26 m) | Estimated 660 feet (200 m) | 11.2 miles (18.0 km) | 1,337 feet (408 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| The Lhen Beach to The Mull of Galloway Lighthouse | 22.6 miles (36.4 km) | 6 feet (1.8 m) | 325 feet (99 m) | 3 miles (4.8 km) | 256 feet (78 m) | Y-axis |
| Puig Sallfort to Giraglia Lighthouse | 325 miles (523 km) | 3,211 feet (979 m) | 279 feet (85 m) | 69.4 miles (111.7 km) | 43,680 feet (13,310 m) | Y-axis |
| Mille Lacs Lake to Mille Lacs Lake | 16.6 miles (26.7 km) | Estimated 50 feet (15 m) | Estimated 50 feet (15 m) | 8.6 miles (13.8 km) | 42 feet (13 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Liverpool to the Isle of Man | 84.4 miles (135.8 km) | 218 feet (66 m) | 2,037 feet (621 m) | 16 miles (26 km) | 2,932 feet (894 m) | Y-axis |
| Liverpool to Anglesey | 52.5 miles (84.5 km) | 242 feet (74 m) | 720 feet (220 m) | 19 miles (31 km) | 746 feet (227 m) | Y-axis |
| Worthing to Beachy Head Cliffs and Lighthouse | 27.1 miles (43.6 km) | 4 feet (1.2 m) | 141 feet (43 m) | 2.4 miles (3.9 km) | 405 feet (123 m) | Y-axis |
| Pine Island to Billy Steels Beacon Light | 7.5 miles (12.1 km) | 4 inches (0.10 m) | 12 feet (3.7 m) | .7 miles (1.1 km) | 30.8 feet (9.4 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Playa de Santiago to Paquita Parez Fishing boat | 4.7 miles (7.6 km) | 1 foot (0.30 m) | Not Applicable | 1.22 miles (1.96 km) | Not Applicable | Z-axis ONLY |
| Prestatyn to Black Combe | 63.2 miles (101.7 km) | 23 feet (7.0 m) | 1,970 feet (600 m) | 5.87 miles (9.45 km) | 2,191 feet (668 m) | Y-axis |
| Southport to The Isle of Man | 72 miles (116 km) | 45 feet (14 m) | 2,037 feet (621 m) | 8.2 miles (13.2 km) | 2,713 feet (827 m) | Y-axis |
| Blackpool Tower from 4 locations | 18 miles (29 km) , 28 miles (45 km) , 30.2 miles (48.6 km) , 33.6 miles (54.1 km) | 15 feet (4.6 m) , 30 feet (9.1 m) , 20 feet (6.1 m) , 15 feet (4.6 m) | Tower 550 feet (170 m) Roller Coaster 235 feet (72 m) | 4.7 miles (7.6 km) , 6.7 miles (10.8 km) , 5.4 miles (8.7 km) , 4.7 miles (7.6 km) | 117.2 feet (35.7 m) , 302 feet (92 m) , 407 feet (124 m) , 555 feet (169 m) | Y-Axis |
| Point Aux Herbes to Fort Pike Bridge | 7 miles (11 km) | 6 feet (1.8 m) | 10 feet (3.0 m) | 3 miles (4.8 km) | 10.7 feet (3.3 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Marineland to Anastasia Park | 13.2 miles (21.2 km) | 15 feet (4.6 m) | 15 feet (4.6 m) | 4.7 miles (7.6 km) | 47.7 feet (14.5 m) | Y-axis |
| Burnt Mt. to Mt. McLoughlin | 95 miles (153 km) | 1,960 feet (600 m) | 9,495 feet (2,894 m) | 54.2 miles (87.2 km) | 1,109 feet (338 m) | Y-axis |
| Key Biscayne. to Cape Florida Lighthouse | 13.75 miles (22.13 km) | 6 feet (1.8 m) | 95 feet (29 m) | 3 miles (4.8 km) | 77.1 feet (23.5 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Canigou to Le Meije | 435 kilometres (270 mi) | 2,785 metres (9,137 ft) | 3,982 metres (13,064 ft) | 188 kilometres (117 mi) | 2,777.2 metres (9,112 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Beacon Fell to Isle of Mann | 86 miles (138 km) | 864 feet (263 m) | 2,037 feet (621 m) | 36 miles (58 km) | 1,667 feet (508 m) | Y-axis |
| Sheridan Park to Bradford Beach | 7 miles (11 km) | 3 feet (0.91 m) | 20 feet (6.1 m) | 2.12 miles (3.41 km) | 15.87 feet (4.84 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Port Washington Power Plant to Elm Road Power Plant | 37 miles (60 km) | 2 feet (0.61 m) | 550 feet (170 m) | 1.7 miles (2.7 km) | 829 feet (253 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Ryde Seafront and Pier from Selsey | 26 kilometres (16 mi) | 15 metres (49 ft) | 48 metres (157 ft) | 4.37 kilometres (2.72 mi) | 36.3 metres (119 ft) | Y-axis |
| Cape Arago Cape to Blanco Light House | 34 miles (55 km) | 30 feet (9.1 m) | 256 feet (78 m) | 6.7 miles (10.8 km) | 496 feet (151 m) | Y-axis |
| Anchors Home to Barrow in Furness | 18.4 miles (29.6 km) | 2 feet (0.61 m) | 20 feet (6.1 m) | 1.7 miles (2.7 km) | 185 feet (56 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Helsinki | 6 miles (9.7 km) | 4 inches (100 mm) | 10 feet (3.0 m) | .7 miles (1.1 km) | 19 feet (5.8 m) | Y-axis |
| Anchors Home to Barrow in Furness II | 20.4 miles (32.8 km) | 1 inch (25 mm) | 20 feet (6.1 m) | .35 miles (0.56 km) | 268 feet (82 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Itälahti Lauttasaari to Gråhara Lighthouse | 4.3 miles (6.9 km) | 30 centimetres (12 in) | 15 metres (49 ft) | 1.21 miles (1.95 km) | 4.7 metres (15 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Beacon Fell to Isle of Mann II | 86 miles (138 km) | 864 feet (263 m) | 2,037 feet (621 m) | 36 miles (58 km) | 1,667 feet (508 m) | Y-axis |
| Atwater Park to Edgewater generating station | 44 miles (71 km) | 2 feet (0.61 m) | 555 feet (169 m) | 1.7 miles (2.7 km) | 1,191 feet (363 m) | Y-axis |
| Windpoint lighthouse to Bayview | 70 miles (110 km) | 20 feet (6.1 m) | 108 feet (33 m) | 10.2 miles (16.4 km) | 68 feet (21 m) | Y-axis |
| Fort Niagara to Toronto | 30.8 miles (49.6 km) | 6 feet (1.8 m) | 306 feet (93 m) | 3 miles (4.8 km) | 515 feet (157 m) | Y-axis |
| Lake Tahoe | 18 miles (29 km) | 3 feet (0.91 m) | 234 feet (71 m) | 2.1 miles (3.4 km) | 168 feet (51 m) | Y-axis |
| Miramar Beach to Anacapa | 31.63 miles (50.90 km) | 3 feet (0.91 m) | 930 feet (280 m) | 2.1 miles (3.4 km) | 580.7 feet (177.0 m) | Y-axis |
| La Gomera to Sail Boat | 43 kilometres (27 mi) | 32 metres (105 ft) | Estimated 25 feet (7.6 m) | 21.1 kilometres (13.1 mi) | 37.5 metres (123 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Albufeira to Praia de Faro Tower | 22.9 kilometres (14.2 mi) | 9.8 metres (32 ft) | 19 metres (62 ft) | 11.1 kilometres (6.9 mi) | 10.8 metres (35 ft) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
Infrared Light Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wales to the Lake District | 187 miles (301 km) | 127 feet (39 m) | 2,864 feet (873 m) | 13.8 miles (22.2 km) | 3,573 feet (1,089 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Perth Hills to Rottnest Island | 32.2 miles (51.8 km) | 782.4 feet (238.5 m) | 264 feet (80 m) | 34.2 miles (55.0 km) | 2.8 feet (0.85 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
Mirror based Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rock Lake Manitoba (Frozen) Mirror Test | 7.4 miles (11.9 km) | 8.5 inches (220 mm) | 1 foot (0.30 m) | 1 mile (1.6 km) | 27.1 feet (8.3 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Monterey Bay | 13.8 miles (22.2 km) | 5 feet (1.5 m) | 2 feet (0.61 m) | 2.74 miles (4.41 km) | 67.3 feet (20.5 m) | Y-axis & Z-axis |
| Salton Sea Triangle Mirror Flash | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 feet (0 m) | 0 miles (0 km) | 0 feet (0 m) |
Laser Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Utah Lake | 13.7 miles (22.0 km) | 4.5 feet (1.4 m) | 5.5 feet (1.7 m) | 1 mile (1.6 km) | 106.5 feet (32.5 m) | Y-axis |
| Laser curvature test Romania | 15 kilometres (9.3 mi) | 1 metre (3.3 ft) | 1 metre (3.3 ft) | 2.2 kilometres (1.4 mi) | 33.6 metres (110 ft) | Y-axis |
| 15 km Laser Test Mandurah | 15 kilometres (9.3 mi) | 2.5 metres (8.2 ft) | 1 metre (3.3 ft) | 3.5 kilometres (2.2 mi) | 22.5 metres (74 ft) | Y-axis |
| Laser Test Puget Sound | 10 miles (16 km) | 10 feet (3.0 m) | 4 feet (1.2 m) | 3.8 miles (6.1 km) | 25 feet (7.6 m) | Y-axis |
| Laser Test Rock Lake Frozen | 7.5 miles (12.1 km) | 3.4 feet (1.0 m) | 2.5 feet (0.76 m) | 2.2 miles (3.5 km) | 18.3 feet (5.6 m) | Y-axis |
Radio wave Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
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Microwave Flat Earth Observations
| Observation | Distance | Observer Height | Target Height | Globe Predicted Horizon Distance | Globe Predicted Hidden by Horizon | Relevant Axis Mismatch |
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